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2022-01-13 FYI
(01-17-2022, 10:01 PM)Tracyn Kyrayc Wrote: Y'all rich-ass people need to chill with that silly idea to only allow paying people to create an empire. ...

First of all, you come off extremely rude and entitled.

Yes in a perfect world it would be awesome if Hazeron could be totally free-to-play again. But untill Haxus says that is actually an option I am not sure your way of practically demanding it will help in any argument. And even if the business model starts as one thing, it can be changed if that proves to not work at all or a new alternative appears.

I do agree that a monthly subscription fee (pay-to-play) is the least attractive business model, especially if the fee is too high. But from the other side it has sone benefits, such as covering expenses and provide funding for upgrades in the future. Having a pay-wall on account creation also discourages abuse of the system.

You seem yo have confused the idea of having empire creation as a separate one-time purchase as something else. At least the way the game played last year you can create an avatar, explore your homeworld, and create a basic colony on your homeworld before needing to actually found an empire. And that is not to mention the idea of your friends not needing to purchase an empire if they are going to join your empire. You can make as many avatars as you want have spawn on as many worlds as you want without having to create or purchase an empire. Same as with the pay-wall on account creation, a pay-wall on empire creation would discourage a ton of exploits in the game. Having the empire creation be a separate purchase also means that it might be reasonable to lower the account creation fee and/or the monthly subscription fee.

All that said, and as I mentioned in my post on the topic a few pages back, I would probably prefer a that account creation was a one-time purchase if possible. But this would only really work if Haxus was ok with also receiving donations on the side, which is something he has been against in the past.
See: (Update thead post) 2022-01-13 FYI #118

Haxus has been avoiding the topic for a while, so I assume he is still thinking of solutions to it or just don't want to promise anything he can't commit to yet.
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2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 04:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Seathre - 01-13-2022, 04:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Zarok - 01-13-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by bonusmop - 01-13-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Dragonly - 01-13-2022, 04:20 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Crabman - 01-13-2022, 04:26 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by pip12345 - 01-13-2022, 04:27 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by GaelicVigil - 01-13-2022, 04:28 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Vooker525 - 01-13-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Neils Iyssada - 01-13-2022, 04:58 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 06:13 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 08:44 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 06:15 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Zarok - 01-13-2022, 06:54 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Paladin - 01-13-2022, 07:03 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Celarious - 01-13-2022, 07:35 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by crazykristi - 01-13-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 09:39 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 09:55 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Wincil - 01-13-2022, 10:08 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by GaelicVigil - 01-13-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Xantheose4 - 01-13-2022, 10:26 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 10:32 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 11:08 PM
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RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 11:41 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 11:45 PM
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